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nikos Moderator


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RickyF Silver Member

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| What a wonderful post. I learned something new and useful from this. Thank you. |
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flapdragon New Member

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This sounds really useful, though I haven't grasped the difference between these junctions and the common-or-garden shortcuts. Perhaps in future versions they cd appear in a different colour by default to avoid the need for registry tinkering. Incidentally, in the demo I take it that the second two folder junctions to be created in the backup folder (d drive and umeca74) should also have the J attribute in the appropriate column.
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I haven't grasped the difference between these junctions and the common-or-garden shortcuts |
the difference is that double-clicking on a junction is like entering the folder, whereas on shortcuts it isn't --- well in xplorer2 both do the same but other programs don't realize folder shortcuts as paths. For example, if you specify a path to a junction in notepad c:\organize\moreData it will be understood, but the equivalent path to a folder shortcut "c:\organize\a folder link.lnk" will not
| Quote: | | the second two folder junctions to be created in the backup folder (d drive and umeca74) should also have the J attribute in the appropriate column |
well done mr eagle-eyed
the answer to the missing Js is that I had to cheat. You see I didn't want to backup all the folders under e.g. "umeca74" so I created a normal folder and in that I hand-picked the subfolders I wanted to backup. In there you would see the J.
hopefully your filesystem organization will be better than mine and you wouldn't have to do such kludges  |
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flapdragon New Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks Nikos! |
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morodan New Member


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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Sadly network targets are not supported, except through mapped drive names. |
What could be the reason why I cannot use this feature even with mapped drive names? maybe OS (win2000 sp4)?
anyway, thanks for the useful hints.
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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what's the error you are receiving? (check also help | last error)
in general mapped drives would suffer since sometimes the drive letters to the same network target may change so the junction won't work |
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morodan New Member


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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: |
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(directly translated from Italian) "Junctions are supported only on NTFS partitions and only for local paths, Windows error = 6 Handle not valid".
Actually, all partitions are ntfs, and drive letters are consistently the same for the same network target. |
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:43 am Post subject: |
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i haven't done any testing for networks, so perhaps what i wrote is wrong but then again it could be just a w2000 limitation
vista has introduced symbolic links that could be the answer to network location problems. THat should be coming in the next xplorer2 update |
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JDlugosz Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: How I use Junctions (Reparse Points) |
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1) I keep the OS and programs on a partition separate from data, to aid backups. For computers I set up for family members who will make heavy use of "My Documents", I simply make the top-level "Documents and Settings" a junction for a location on the data drive.
Similarly, I've helped people move data from a full drive to a new drive without the path names changing.
2) Before SATA, I had separate not-so-large but very fast SCSI drives, a fast ATA drive, and a cheap huge drive. I could keep my files under a single tree, but move groups to different physical storage depending on need. Actually, that's why Junctions were introduced in the first place.
3) Sometimes I use hard links to reduce the number of identical copies of a file. Not that we really need the space anymore, but because it annoys me, or to ensure shared Segments when those dlls are actually used in memory.
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In the beginning, I used "Junction.exe" from sysinternals. More recently, I've used the built-in commands in 4NT once they became available. I think I'd use them more if they were properly built-in to the explorer shell, so I'll be trying that feature on xplorer˛ when I run into potential uses again. |
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| if you use junctions a lot you'll gain time adding a keyboard shortcut to x2's junction commands (Customize | Keyboard). They are way too deep in submenus as it is |
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JDlugosz Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| nikos wrote: | | They are way too deep in submenus as it is |
Why not put them on the drop target menu? Normally I shift-drag items and get a drop menu asking if I want to copy or move or make a shortcut. This should contain additional choices for making a hard link, junction, or symlink, as applicable.
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| this could be added in a future version |
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