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nikos Moderator


Joined: 07 Feb 2002 Posts: 12346 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: beauty is skin deep |
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This thread was originally posted in the xplorer˛ Professional forum.
Moved here 19-May-2010 =fg=
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here's the comment area for today's blog entry found at:
www.zabkat.com/blog/06Jan08.htm
Here you can also post your questions on how to create custom skins yourselves, and even show us previews of what your skins look like!
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TracyB Member

Joined: 15 Sep 2007 Posts: 35
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Firstly, very nice! An X˛ beta... *drool*
Just a suggestion here, and I hope I'm not out of line... have you considered offering X˛ licenses to the winners - just the few of them whose skins you bundle along with the app. I suggest this coz I've known you to offer licenses to people even for becoming lifelong X˛ advocates, and an offer like that would reach out to the very-talented non-X˛ crowd out there! Can't wait for it to catch on at someplace like deviantart |
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Mr.Pleasant Silver Member

Joined: 29 Dec 2006 Posts: 242 Location: Utrecht, NL
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Well-o-well, Nikos, given in to the 'eye-candy clan'? I guess everyone has his moments of weakness
No, but serious, I'm actually kind of curious to see the next x2. Normally, I wouldn't want to sacrifice any perfomance nor functionality to good-looks when it comes to software (my Windows is always in 'classic' display, mainly because of higher performance and more efficient use of screen estate). But even I sometimes feel a bit frivolous (oh golly), and change themes on my Firefox browser. Just as long as it isn't really impacting general performance. Of course. And I trust that's in save hands with you!
Plus: the possibillity to use your own customized icons for user commands is really an improvement.
I'm really looking forward to this 'skin competition'. To refer to the words someone used in another topic: we finally can have some lace on our chainsaw!  |
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kunkel321 Bronze Member


Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 134
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: meaning of buttons? |
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Hi All,
Just curious... How do you know which buttons (icons) go with which pictures?
I thought there might be an ini file in the download, but didn't see anything... -steve |
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snakebyte Gold Member


Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 379 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Steve,
The order of icons in the bitmap is fixed. See APPENDIX COMMAND ORDER in the readme file.
For example if you want to change the icon for refresh button, you just modify the 3rd icon in the toolbar bitmap. _________________ Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's universe simulator. |
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kunkel321 Bronze Member


Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 134
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: No readme file... |
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Hi Snakebyte,
THanks for the reply. I don't seem to see the readme file... OR maybe I'm going blind, which is possible... In C:/Program Files/zagbat/explorer2 I see:
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changes txt
Editor2 txt
editor2_UC exe
editor2_UC.exe.manifest manifest
licence txt
registry txt
Uninstall exe
x2docs pdf
x2help css
x2help htm
x2SettingsEditor exe
x2tips rtf
x2tips txt
xplorer2_UC exe
xplorer2_UC.exe.manifest manifest
Maybe somehow I didn't download it???
Also, I don't know if it's related, but I noticed if I go to the xplorer2 Help Menu and click [Contents] it doesn't do anything... I'll go see if there's another download on the site... maybe an external help file or something...
THanks again for the reply.. |
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kunkel321 Bronze Member


Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 134
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: Doh ... nevermind... |
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Please forgive the reply I just posts, reinquiring about the readme file ... I see now that there is a readme in the folder with the icons!!
SOrry! -steve |
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pschroeter Bronze Member


Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 95
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: I'm fine with the style and the way the icons look now |
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Just so you know I'm fine with the style and the way the icons look now in xplorer˛. I hope any new icons fit in with the old ones, they are very clear and unobtrusive. I just want more of them to match practically any command that MenuHack can access. I don't want to look at seven hammers in my toolbar anymore.
xplorer˛ update, best Christmas present yet! |
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snakebyte Gold Member


Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 379 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: I'm fine with the style and the way the icons look now |
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| pschroeter wrote: | | I just want more of them to match practically any command that MenuHack can access. I don't want to look at seven hammers in my toolbar anymore. |
pschroeter, Nikos mentioned that each of the individual user command icon is customizable. So no more hammers on the toolbar.
Nikos, rephrasing pschroeter's query. What about the xplorer2 commands not associated with any icons in the menu. Can they be customized as well? _________________ Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's universe simulator. |
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nikos Moderator


Joined: 07 Feb 2002 Posts: 12346 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | What about the xplorer2 commands not associated with any icons in the menu. Can they be customized as well? |
not yet
| Quote: | | have you considered offering X˛ licenses to the winners |
obviously, that's the least I will do. But I think that the artistic people will be more rewarded having their creations showcased to a wide audience |
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zstoichev New Member

Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:09 am Post subject: Images |
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Hello Nikos!
Probably now is the time to add support for transparent images in toolbars and menus. Thus you should use PNG SDK images, instead of the BMP ones. Both Windows XP and Vista use transparent images. What are your thos?
And second question about skin images location. Currently uTorrent uses ApplicationData\{appname} folder for its skins files, and not the executable's forder. This is because Program Files is not writable for users under Vista, for example. Maybe this is good to be like?
Regards,
Zdravko
p.s. by transparent I mean alpha-blended, with shadows etc. |
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: |
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hi Zdravko
as far as i can tell, plain bitmaps can also have alpha transparency, but i'm no expert! For the 256 color bitmaps I use the "pink" background color for transparency. See the readme file here: http://www.zabkat.com/skinz.zip
it will have to be bitmaps because at runtime, it will be easier to load bitmaps without any extra baggage that PNG or anything else would require |
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ZoNi Silver Member


Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 177 Location: Serbia
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: |
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GREAT! Finaly
I came today to my office, after last night celebrating "Serbian" (Orthodox) New Year and saw this nice gift!
Thank you, Nikos! I hope we'll finally have some nice skins (I do not have artistic skills ) _________________ ZoNi's hardware, software & desktop |
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I do not have artistic skills |
me neither, let's hope we'll attract some other people's attention!
I was thinking, in the worst case there won't be any skins to download immediately, but down the road there will be some user-created icons for all to share |
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ZoNi Silver Member


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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| nikos wrote: | let's hope we'll attract some other people's attention!
I was thinking, in the worst case there won't be any skins to download immediately, but down the road there will be some user-created icons for all to share |
yes, I thought similar, but I did something more - I have sent an email to the author of great Phoenity icons Hope he will be able to make some nice icons (although he told me it would be nice if x2 icons can support alpha blending - that means: PNG is better than BMP for icons )
but, BMP should be enough for now  _________________ ZoNi's hardware, software & desktop |
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