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nikos Moderator


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RickyF Silver Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: You don't use Firefox? |
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I am astonished to read that you don't use Firefox. Do you use Windows Explorer? No, you use xplorer˛ Professional.
Firefox is far superior to IE7 in its extensibility and usefulness. I urge you to reconsider your browser. |
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desslok Bronze Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: |
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This trick can't be used in Firefox because nowhere in file names does flv appear. But their size is usually bigger than other files, so sorting by size will usually get there.
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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so for firefox you have to search for files e.g. larger than 500KB in the cache and then sort the results by date. Also FLV files start by "FLV" so searching for contained text "FLV$01" will also grab them (albeit at much slower rate)
rickyF i use IE6 which is nice and lightweight. You don't do much with it other than click on links so even MS can manage that without annoying me  |
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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ps could it be that WMP can play flv files after all? Has anyone tried this?
http://www.playflv.com/ |
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pschroeter Bronze Member


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desslok Bronze Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, as long as you have some codec installed. FFDShow is quite popular. |
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wasker Gold Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: You don't use Firefox? |
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| RickyF wrote: | I am astonished to read that you don't use Firefox. Do you use Windows Explorer? No, you use xplorer˛ Professional.
Firefox is far superior to IE7 in its extensibility and usefulness. I urge you to reconsider your browser. |
I use IE because it's much easier to use that FF. On the laptop I prefer GChrome, because it just blows everything speed-wise.
And BTW, IE is very much extensible piece of software. _________________ You gotta hear that: http://www.getfugitive.com
I'm using Xplorer2 - the only file manager that does not suck. Actually, it rocks! |
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The Dude New Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| nikos wrote: | rickyF i use IE6 which is nice and lightweight. You don't do much with it other than click on links so even MS can manage that without annoying me  |
Ahhahahahahahhaha!!!!! |
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narayan Gold Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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I am not (yet) an expert in this topic, but it seems some websites have streaming videos; so the video is not deposited first in the cache. The best example is SNL videos (from MSNBC website). If we search the cache, all we get is a small swf file called player (or something similar).
But the video does stop from time to time "to buffer", which means that it must be loading in the memory, at least in parts (if not whole).
Any idea how to grab those videos? |
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nikos Moderator


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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| this MSNBC also uses flash player, so i bet the video is in the cache somewhere. Try searching without a particular wildcard (no *FLV) and instead add a rule for size >500KB and date <= 1 hour |
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desslok Bronze Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| narayan wrote: | | The best example is SNL videos (from MSNBC website). |
Is this it?
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live//
I think is it's USA only.
The best free tools I can think of is Firefox + Flashgot or + Downloadhelper, or Orbit downloader. There are sharewares that claim to be better at grabbing, but it's a cat and mouse game, as nikos wrote. |
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BRX Gold Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: |
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If you like to save flash movies or other streams Orbitdownloader is indeed a very good (free) tool and DL-Manager, since it's component Grabit+ reveals a lot of the hidden links of the streams and lets it download.
If you're interested in Youtube only I'd recommend Free Download Manager which is an excellent opensource DL-Manager, integrates well with the browsers, can be used as a portable and also preserves titles and upload dates of the Youtube videos.
Downlading from Youtube has ever been only a right-click in the browser since for me. |
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narayan Gold Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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desslok,
yes, that's the site I am talking about.
BRX,
I have installed orbit, but never used it, because I used the other downloader addons for FF:
DownloadHelper
I also installed some more exotic-sounding FF addons but didn't get around to use-
Flash Video resources downloader
Fast video download
DownloadThemAll
MediaDownloader
Amazing Media Browser
Magic's video downloader
Some of these addons work through a website.
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BTW the FDM cannot detect the youtube links with their titles (the actual name of the video at YouTube is always "getvideo"; so if you download multiple videos, FDM just puts a running suffix after them.
That's why I CTRL+CLick on the video's name from the DownloadHelper's popup list, which is caught automatically by FDM, with proper name.
Ideally DownloadHelper alone should be sufficient, because Youtube does allows a single thread in the download (and that too, non-resumable); so FDM cannot accelerate/resume the download. However, it can be set to restart the download in case of a stopped download, which is really helpful (you do not have to monitor the downloads). |
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BRX Gold Member

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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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@Narayan:
Maybe you've got other properties for FDM. I know for a fact that FDM saves the flv files with their title and not with "getdownload" or something.
Otherwise I wouldn't have written it. |
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